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Judge rules for the 2A

swinokur

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Judge rules against MD G & S rule

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Breaking News: Victory in Woollard Case





Home » Email Alerts » Breaking News: Victory in Woollard Case
Mar 5, 2012
We just received word that the United States District Court for the District of Maryland has granted a motion for summary judgement for plaintiff Ray Woollard in the Woollard v. Sheridan case that challenged the good and substantial requirement for issuance of a permit to carry a handgun.
You'll recall that this is the federal court case that Maryland Shall Issue helped to fund through a donation to the Second Amendement Foundation who spearheaded this effort.
Ladies and gentlemen, we won!
This is all breaking news and there is far too much analysis to be done to comment any further today, but we wanted to make sure that MSI's members were aware of this exciting news.
A copy of the opinion can be found here.
Here are some important excerpts from the opinion:
"Because the ―good and substantial reason requirement is not reasonably adapted to a substantial government interest, the Court finds this portion of the Maryland law to be unconstitutional. Woollard is entitled to summary judgment. "
"A law that burdens the exercise of an enumerated constitutional right by simply making that right more difficult to exercise cannot be considered ―reasonably adapted‖ to a government interest, no matter how substantial that interest may be. Maryland‘s goal of ―minimizing the proliferation of handguns among those who do not have a demonstrated need for them,‖ id. at 40, is not a permissible method of preventing crime or ensuring public safety; it burdens the right too broadly. "
"At bottom, this case rests on a simple proposition: If the Government wishes to burden a right guaranteed by the Constitution, it may do so provided that it can show a satisfactory justification and a sufficiently adapted method. The showing, however, is always the Government‘s to make. A citizen may not be required to offer a good and substantial reason why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs."
We will have much to say on this in coming days once the smoke clears, so stand by for more information.

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This is great news.

However, I fear that the MSP and the Legislature will react to this ruling in much the same way that DC reacted to Heller and Chicago reacted to McDonald--by quickly adopting VERY specific, convoluted and nearly impossible-to-meet rules for permit issuance.

In other words, this battle is nowhere near over. It will be in court again--and soon--as the MSP and the MD State Government would rather risk a "contempt of court" case by creating policies specifically to "end run" around this ruling than allow the citizens of MD (whom they consider to be their whole and complete chattel) to exercise their fundamental human right to self defense.

All this said, I will be applying for a MD "unrestricted" permit as soon as I change over my residency. Tossing a Supreme Court Ruling on the table at the "Review Board" when my application gets turned down by MSP will be well worth the price of admission...
 

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I am sure the ruling will get an appeal, just to slow things down a bit. This is what has happened in each 2A major case.
They won't roll over that easy.
Sorry. Other than that, a wonderful, sensible ruling!
 

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Here is the ruling. It's a good thing Judge Legg uses 4th circuit rulings in Chester and Maciandaro (sp?) as rationale. This helps minimize the probability of it being accepted on appeal.
 

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Great news!! As a resident of northern VA, I'm happy to hear that at least one person in my birth state (I was born in Easton, MD) will get a permit without having to come up with a "good and substantial reason". The judge said "Woollard is entitled to summary judgment. ", which I presume means Mr. Wollard get his permit forthwith.

But the judge's decision states that the "good and substantial reason" requirement is unconstitutional. I don't see any language to the effect that the ruling is stayed pending appeal, so am I correct in assuming it takes effect immediately? If that's the case, anybody who applies and isn't disqualified for any other reason should get their permit without having to provide the "good and substantial reason". Now might be the time for MD residents to apply.
 

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I'm not sure who issues the stay. If it is appealed I would guess one judge at the 4th would decide pending the actual appeal but IANAL. IIRC the state has 30 days to decide
 

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“A citizen may not be required to offer a `good and substantial reason’ why he should be permitted to exercise his rights,” he wrote. “The right’s existence is all the reason he needs.”

That is about the most intelligent thing I have read in a while. However, it doesn't go nearly far enough. You should not need a piece of paper from the state to exercise your rights.

I would like to see a ruling where the judge says:
"A citizen may not be required to obtain a permit from their state of residence to exercise their Constitutional right to own AND BEAR arms. The right's existence is all the reason he needs to carry a gun."
 

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I just had to slip over to the Maryland side here for a moment and congratulation you folks who have been working and waiting for this. My good friend swinokur, who started this thread, I know must be one happy man.... though probably still holding his breath.

Montgomery County is likely to go berserk with this one if permits are issued en masse and folks actually start carrying concealed handguns.

Next stop... open carry.
 
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Sonora Rebel

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Finally...

This judge just affirmed the very argument I've made since Mandel's 1972 blatent effrontery. Frosh must be having siezures. No doubt the MSP jack boots are in a similar tiz. Next step... Constitutional Carry. They'll drag their feet tho. Don't expect instant compliance.
 

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Big Step forward

I know that Maryland won't necessarily roll over, but they just might. I am a citizen of the Socialist Republic of New Jersey, and I just might apply for a "Permit to Carry" in NJ. As you may know, NJ is a discretionary may issue State that requires you to provide a "need." Admittedly, I am thrilled over this ruling. I personally think it is a BIG step forward. Maybe, just maybe .................:D
 

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Just finished reading the ruling. The unconstitutional part the judge got right, but everything else was filled with judicial cowardice. "The 4th Circuit and/or Supreme Court haven't ruled on such-and-such yet, so I'm not gonna touch it with a ten-foot pole," or words to that effect.


But, it's a win, so maybe there's hope yet for the Peoples' Republic of Maryland.
 

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Congratulations Maryland!


maybe this will help drag you into the rest of the constitutional United States. i did find it interesting that the judge did call it a constitutional right to carry, not just a right in your home. i hope the appeal works out for you too.
 

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'Tis but a single domino....

But this one fell the right way. The rights have been lost incrementally, they come back that way too. Still it is very good news. If this keeps up I will have to stop with my People's Republic jibes. Nah, that won't happen anytime soon, but congrats on the first (of many, I hope) win.
 

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court opinion:

In deciding whether the applicant has satisfied these criteria, the Handgun Permit Unit (―Permit Unit‖), which reviews applications as the Secretary‘s designee, is required to take various factors into consideration. These include ―the reasons given by the applicant as to whether those reasons are good and substantial,‖


Answer: 'cause I want to ..... GOOD ENOUGH !
 

Mr H

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This is great news.

However, I fear that the MSP and the Legislature will react to this ruling in much the same way that DC reacted to Heller and Chicago reacted to McDonald--by quickly adopting VERY specific, convoluted and nearly impossible-to-meet rules for permit issuance.

In other words, this battle is nowhere near over. It will be in court again--and soon--as the MSP and the MD State Government would rather risk a "contempt of court" case by creating policies specifically to "end run" around this ruling than allow the citizens of MD (whom they consider to be their whole and complete chattel) to exercise their fundamental human right to self defense.

All this said, I will be applying for a MD "unrestricted" permit as soon as I change over my residency. Tossing a Supreme Court Ruling on the table at the "Review Board" when my application gets turned down by MSP will be well worth the price of admission...

Residency isn't an issue. No distinction in MD law (much like OC v CC)... permit is permit.
 
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