*Upon request from a police officer, you are required to show your permit to carry and a photo ID so please have those with you at all times.~Paul Leason
Respectfully, have you explored the possibility that may not be the reality? Does the purchase of a permit negate all other rights you have? [Right to privacy, right to travel freely, right to exist without fear of persecution?]
Here's the Minnesota statute:
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=624.714
I'd ask you to look at:
Subd. 1b.Display of permit; penalty. (a) The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document
upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1. A violation of this paragraph is a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this paragraph is not subject to forfeiture.
Does the
"lawful demand of a peace officer" require RAS.... “Reasonable Articulable Suspicion” that one is in the commission of a crime, or conspiring to commit a crime? If RAS is present, producing ID is required. Openly packing a handgun IS NOT RAS. There is federal precedence on this matter all over the place.
Why is RAS such an issue? Because if police can detain you without it, police can basically assault you on sight for simply carrying a firearm. They can rip the wallet from your pocket, going through your personal papers. Where is the limit? What prevents them [police] from holding you at gun point until they have stripped you in front of your family, peers, co-workers, humiliating you and casting you in the light of a dangerous predator, deserving of the most aggressive of felony take downs, looking for something you might of left at home?
I'm not focusing on the right to carry, rather, the right to privacy. Unless I missed a memo, this is not a police state where "show me ze papers" dominates, and you will comply or die.
Here's my contention: If we singly or as a group are gathered, engaged in open carry, are observably law abiding, the police have no right or reason to approach you/us to demand that permit. Can they take people down on the street at gun point at the voting polls, strip them of everything that might contain an ID to establish they are citizens? No. Can they kick in our doors, hold us at gunpoint and demand a marriage license if there are people in a bed? No. We have some protections from unwarranted intrusions, and I think it applies to us practicing a legitimate activity as well.
I think if enough people find a common understanding on the issues of open carry in Minnesota, the more support will turn out. The hard part is going to be getting the information out to develop the understanding.
Sorry I can't make the meet today. It's about 160 miles one way, it's raining, I'm on a motorcycle, and I'd have less than an hour to get there. I'd love hear about the turnout and what was discussed.