The carrying weapons charge was dropped right before trial. The failure to produce weapons permit charge was then tried on its own. The states only arguement was that only the pocketbilly was required to be concealed, not the revolver or pistol. The judge agreed that the wording of the law is grammatically correct and states that all 3 be concealed. What has me thinking is that when I am stopped again(I will be OC again this friday), if I go by what the judge ruled and refuse to show my permit again, and I will be showing the officer copies of the ruling, then the officer will still(more than likely) arrest me for carrying weapons. We had a hearing for a 4th amend. violation and got nowhere because the arrest was made for refusing to provide a permit, not for carrying weapons in and of itself. Getting arresting simply because of carrying weapons, would be a HUGE 4th amend. violation. I wont even need a lawyer for that one. Probable cause for detention, sure. Probable cause for an arrest, not even close. Maybe all the naysayers ive been reading about on this thread will apologize now.