oak1971
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I guess I will have purchase my diamond encrusted 1911 grips elsewhere. They leave your hands cut and bleeding, but provide great grip.
I guess I will have purchase my diamond encrusted 1911 grips elsewhere. They leave your hands cut and bleeding, but provide great grip.
Bret,
I would invite you to come join us this Friday, the 1st at Lizzie's for dinner. A bunch of us will show up starting around 6:30 pm. You can talk to Adam and Lizzie, the owners, and see what their experience has been.
In addition, I invite you to our get together this next Sunday at the Delavan Starbucks. We normally have 15-25 people. The record is 70! If you talk to the employees, you will get feedback as well.
See, we come with references!
Hi,
First, I did contact the NRA to see what can be done to come up with a solution without hurting our economy.
Second, channel 12 did a nice story. http://www.wisn.com/news/28389342/detail.html#COMMENTTOP
Third, why is there a law saying you can't drink and conceal? If you go to a bar and drink you can't bring in your firearm.
Instead of boycotting and complaining, let's come up with a solution BEFORE this law take affect.
Bret
Again, you are welcome to post on our facebook page under Robert Haack Diamonds.
If I build a security locker where the locker and keys are outside, so you can put your weapon away while you shop, would that be a good compromise?
I am happy that we are getting the ball rolling / discussion started. I actually contacted the NRA to see if there is a solution.
For Adam and Lizzie, if they sell alcohol, according to the law from what someone told me, is you can't have a concealed weapon while drinking. Why does the law protect the bars from boycotts? Shouldn't you have a right to drink and carry a gun?
My point is, our store does deal with the public. I would say about 1 out of 300 is on something. Apparently, the law states that you can't drink and conceal in a bar.
There has to be a solution out there.
Hi,
First, I did contact the NRA to see what can be done to come up with a solution without hurting our economy.
Second, channel 12 did a nice story. http://www.wisn.com/news/28389342/detail.html#COMMENTTOP
Third, why is there a law saying you can't drink and conceal? If you go to a bar and drink you can't bring in your firearm.
Instead of boycotting and complaining, let's come up with a solution BEFORE this law take affect.
Bret
Again, you are welcome to post on our facebook page under Robert Haack Diamonds.
If I build a security locker where the locker and keys are outside, so you can put your weapon away while you shop, would that be a good compromise?
Anyway, if you put in a security locker inside the entrance of your business then you would probably get the benifit of the civil liability immunity. If it was outside you probably wouldn't.
I agree that this is a boon of free advertising for Brett, and I don't believe he actually received any threats. I say let this issue die off, and let him take his business where he chooses to go with it.
If he wants to say we are "black listing" him, banishing him or its a "boycott" let him. Doesn't change the fact that he chooses to infringe on our right, and we can choose to shop where our right is NOT infringed upon.
I am happy that we are getting the ball rolling / discussion started. I actually contacted the NRA to see if there is a solution.
For Adam and Lizzie, if they sell alcohol, according to the law from what someone told me, is you can't have a concealed weapon while drinking. Why does the law protect the bars from boycotts? Shouldn't you have a right to drink and carry a gun?
My point is, our store does deal with the public. I would say about 1 out of 300 is on something. Apparently, the law states that you can't drink and conceal in a bar.
There has to be a solution out there.
The argument that people have been making is you wont feel protected unless you are carrying your gun. How did you live in Wisconsin for so long with your personal security on the line?
Hi,
The threats are real. Do I feel like anyone is going to act on them? No. My wife is the one that is angry about people threatening our family and some of the threats can be pretty graphic.
The argument that people have been making is you wont feel protected unless you are carrying your gun. How did you live in Wisconsin for so long with your personal security on the line?
In Minnesota, you can't carry your firearm into the Mall of America (from what I heard). All of those store owners might not agree with the malls decision, but by boycotting that mall, you are hurting their livelihood.
I think there is a good solution somewhere. We need to find the solution BEFORE the law goes into affect. I did contact the NRA to see if they have any ideas.
Hi,
The threats are real. Do I feel like anyone is going to act on them? No. My wife is the one that is angry about people threatening our family and some of the threats can be pretty graphic.
The argument that people have been making is you wont feel protected unless you are carrying your gun. How did you live in Wisconsin for so long with your personal security on the line?
In Minnesota, you can't carry your firearm into the Mall of America (from what I heard). All of those store owners might not agree with the malls decision, but by boycotting that mall, you are hurting their livelihood.
I think there is a good solution somewhere. We need to find the solution BEFORE the law goes into affect. I did contact the NRA to see if they have any ideas.
Hi,
The threats are real. Do I feel like anyone is going to act on them? No. My wife is the one that is angry about people threatening our family and some of the threats can be pretty graphic.
The argument that people have been making is you wont feel protected unless you are carrying your gun. How did you live in Wisconsin for so long with your personal security on the line? In Minnesota, you can't carry your firearm into the Mall of America (from what I heard). All of those store owners might not agree with the malls decision, but by boycotting that mall, you are hurting their livelihood.
I think there is a good solution somewhere. We need to find the solution BEFORE the law goes into affect. I did contact the NRA to see if they have any ideas.
Hi,
The threats are real. Do I feel like anyone is going to act on them? No. My wife is the one that is angry about people threatening our family and some of the threats can be pretty graphic.
The argument that people have been making is you wont feel protected unless you are carrying your gun. How did you live in Wisconsin for so long with your personal security on the line?
In Minnesota, you can't carry your firearm into the Mall of America (from what I heard). All of those store owners might not agree with the malls decision, but by boycotting that mall, you are hurting their livelihood.
I think there is a good solution somewhere. We need to find the solution BEFORE the law goes into affect. I did contact the NRA to see if they have any ideas.
First I need to say that I am sorry for any threats you may have gotten over this. I would send them to the Police ASAP. I would also have to recommend that you start to carry a gun in your store, as you were seen on TV telling all that you will not let guns in. Bummer is, you did that to you...
Second thing I have to say is that I do not know much about The Mall of America. It is not in Wisconsin...
Final point is that I will not shop in your store until you change your thinking about lawful people. If Pick'n Save did what you did (on TV no less) I would not spend my money with them...
This "ball" is not just in your court, you are the one that made this a game...
Your actions show me that you do not respect, or even trust the people that spend cash at your store.
By the way, the last time I was in your store I WAS carrying OPEN! Feel free to look us up (Sky). It was a smaller gun, and I would guess your "security" guy did not see it. I did come in and sit down right away. Guess it is easy to miss...
My wife just picked up her ring last week (resize). I had to wait outside for her (because you don't trust me). Last time I ever do that...
Please feel free to let me know if you do change your mind.
Excellent point.How do you justify staying in business in a location where you feel the need to disarm ALL of your customers, including the law-abiding ones?
I find it curious that it's been positioned as a "gun carrier boycott" of Haack. Gun carriers can't boycott, because they're not allowed there in the first place.Boycotting a business is a legitimate method of attempting to effect change. Do you consider boycotts to be "threats?"
He must have had a very troubled childhood....At Robert Haack Diamonds near 76th and Layton Blvd., Owner Bret Eulberg says his jewelry business will not allow guns. "It's crazy, now I have to put a sign up saying 'no guns allowed'. Again, it's still not going to stop the bad guy from coming in with the gun."
Eulberg says he's concerned that the presence of guns could escalate disputes. "You don't want to have that worry all the time. You want to make sure we are just normal people here not I don't want to say something bad and all of the sudden you whip out a gun at me."