papa bear
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i was wondering what ya'll thought about this.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/53084779/ns/local_news-portsmouth_va/#.UkC2f1O2eV4
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/53084779/ns/local_news-portsmouth_va/#.UkC2f1O2eV4
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) - A suspended seventh grade Virginia Beach student will find out soon if he is expelled for the rest of the year for shooting an airsoft gun.
Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.
The two seventh graders say they never went to the bus stop; they fired the airsoft guns while on Caraballo's private property.
i am in discussion with someone and i mentioned that i think the bus is a school zone for so many ft. i know i read it some where, because it pertained to guns. can't find it now. i might be asking the right question.
the person is wanting a cite . the only thing i have so far is the superintendent of my county's word.
if any of you have a cite on this i would appreciate it. thought it has nothing to do with this case (i assume)
Andy Fox list's some quote's during the movie. I'd have to listen to it again to get them. I don't understand if the 911 caller was so concerned about her son, why did she let him go over there the next day and play? Again I'd have to listen to it again, but I think they put it down while the bus was there. Will re-listen to it now.
Ok, so what's the problem?1. Student's say the boy's weren't near the bus stop.
Ok, so what's the problem?2. They were in there yard 70 yard's away on there property, not at the bus stop.
Then why the hell did she call and report it?3. 911 call, the lady say's she saw them target practing, and knew the gun wasn't real.
OH MY GAWWWWWWWD! HOLOCAUST!4. The caller's son was there the next day playing with the boy...*love that one lol*
Ok, 2nd Amendment.5. All shot's according to parent's were on private property.
Ok, that was not violated.6. Code say's in the video "No firearm or spring-propelled rifle or pistol discharge within 150 yards of a school building.
Except it was on private property. 2nd & 3rd Amendment.7. No shooting pneumatic guns, unless on approved gun range or private property.
This one confuses me. Can you explain it?8. Boy Did NOT have permission to shoot them from the parent's, apparently a law on the books.
Precisely.School will most likely use no. 8 to get away with it, but imo it's over bored. Kid's disobey there parent's all the time. School should stay at school, when it comes to raising in the house.
The Definitive Guide to Virginia's Air Gun Laws.
http://monachuslex.com/?p=1162
B. No such ordinance authorized by subsection A shall prohibit the use of pneumatic guns at facilities approved for shooting ranges, on other property where firearms may be discharged, (or on or within private property with permission of the owner )or legal possessor thereof when conducted with reasonable care to prevent a projectile from crossing the bounds of the property.
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+15.2-915.4
Bottom line is that this is not within the school's perview - they have no authority to regulate.
The Definitive Guide to Virginia's Air Gun Laws.
http://monachuslex.com/?p=1162
B. No such ordinance authorized by subsection A shall prohibit the use of pneumatic guns at facilities approved for shooting ranges, on other property where firearms may be discharged, or on or within private property with permission of the owner or legal possessor thereof when conducted with reasonable care to prevent a projectile from crossing the bounds of the property.
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+15.2-915.4
Bottom line is that this is not within the school's perview - they have no authority to regulate.
They didn't have permission from the parent. I put it in parenthesis as I can't bold atm. She stated that in the video. That is what I was referring to, or am I reading to far into it?
Never understood why laws have to be so vague sounding.
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i was wondering what ya'll thought about this.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/53084779/ns/local_news-portsmouth_va/#.UkC2f1O2eV4
i am in discussion with someone and i mentioned that i think the bus is a school zone for so many ft. i know i read it some where, because it pertained to guns. can't find it now. i might be asking the right question.
the person is wanting a cite . the only thing i have so far is the superintendent of my county's word.
if any of you have a cite on this i would appreciate it. thought it has nothing to do with this case (i assume)
i am in discussion with someone and i mentioned that i think the bus is a school zone for so many ft. i know i read it some where, because it pertained to guns. can't find it now. i might be asking the right question.
the person is wanting a cite . the only thing i have so far is the superintendent of my county's word.
if any of you have a cite on this i would appreciate it. thought it has nothing to do with this case (i assume)
School bus stops are not GFSZ by federal or Virginia statute and local municipality may not enact such.I have walked right past school buses many times while OC'ing when they have taken kids to local businesses and never had any problems. I don't believe there is anything regarding a "distance" when they are not on school property.
All interested parties send an email to the School Board of the Virginia Beach City Public Schools registering your disgust for the manner in which this was handled?
VBCPSSchoolboard@googlegroups.com