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just wonder if you can carry a handgun in your vehicle without a permit in mich?
just wonder if you can carry a handgun in your vehicle without a permit in mich?
Nope. You must have a CPL.
These the the exemptions. If you do not have a CPL you must transport it as described in part "d" unless you do not have a trunk then you must transport it as described in part "e".750.227 (2) A person shall not carry a pistol concealed on or about his or her person, or, whether concealed or otherwise, in a vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, without a license to carry the pistol as provided by law and if licensed, shall not carry the pistol in a place or manner inconsistent with any restrictions upon such license.
750.231a Exceptions to MCL 750.227(2)
(a) To a person holding a valid license to carry a pistol concealed upon his or her person issued by his or her state of residence except where the pistol is carried in nonconformance with a restriction appearing on the license.
(d) To a person while transporting a pistol for a lawful purpose that is licensed by the owner or occupant of
the motor vehicle in compliance with section 2 of 1927 PA 372, MCL 28.422, and the pistol is unloaded in a closed case designed for the storage of firearms in the trunk of the vehicle.
(e) To a person while transporting a pistol for a lawful purpose that is licensed by the owner or occupant of the motor vehicle in compliance with section 2 of 1927 PA 372, MCL 28.422, and the pistol is unloaded in a closed case designed for the storage of firearms in a vehicle that does not have a trunk and is not readily accessible to the occupants of the vehicle.
Isn't there an exception that allows you carry in a vehicle on your own property? I know the exception allows for CC on your own property, but does that end if you jump in a truck?
750.227 (2) A person shall not carry a pistol concealed on or about his or her person, or, whether concealed or otherwise, in a vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, without a license to carry the pistol as provided by law and if licensed, shall not carry the pistol in a place or manner inconsistent with any restrictions upon such license.
so what about locked in a case in the trunk or truck tool box separate from the cab? any exception for that
Part "d" and "e" cover transportation. If you have a trunk it MUST be in the trunk. So no it could not just be in a tool box. If it was in a case designed for a the storage of a firearm then put into a tool box you would be good.750.231a Exceptions to MCL 750.227(2)
(a) To a person holding a valid license to carry a pistol concealed upon his or her person issued by his or her state of residence except where the pistol is carried in nonconformance with a restriction appearing on the license.
(d) To a person while transporting a pistol for a lawful purpose that is licensed by the owner or occupant of
the motor vehicle in compliance with section 2 of 1927 PA 372, MCL 28.422, and the pistol is unloaded in a closed case designed for the storage of firearms in the trunk of the vehicle.
(e) To a person while transporting a pistol for a lawful purpose that is licensed by the owner or occupant of the motor vehicle in compliance with section 2 of 1927 PA 372, MCL 28.422, and the pistol is unloaded in a closed case designed for the storage of firearms in a vehicle that does not have a trunk and is not readily accessible to the occupants of the vehicle.
Under Michigan law without a valid license from your home state it must be in the trunk in a case designed for the storage of a firearm.
Part "d" and "e" cover transportation. If you have a trunk it MUST be in the trunk. So no it could not just be in a tool box. If it was in a case designed for a the storage of a firearm then put into a tool box you would be good.
EDIT: There is no MICHIGAN LAW that requires the firearm to be locked up. But it may be a good idea if you don't have a trunk.
The OP does not have a license/permit to carry and Alabama does not require handgun registration. Therefore, 750.231a does not come into play nor does 750.227 due to the OP being a resident of Alabama. In other words, he can not possess, carry, transport, etc, in Michigan.
28.432 Inapplicability of MCL 28.422; amendatory act as “Janet Kukuk act”.
Sec. 12. (1) Section 2 does not apply to any of the following:
(f) A United States citizen holding a license to carry a pistol concealed upon his or her person issued by
another state.
EDIT: There is no MICHIGAN LAW that requires the firearm to be locked up. But it may be a good idea if you don't have a trunk.
Although looking at the fact he does not have a permit from Alabama he probably does not have one from another state. If he did though he would be allowed to open carry in Michigan and be exempt from 750.234d but would still have to transport as if he had no license.
There is one....but it would probably just be confusing as it is outside the scope of this conversation but I'm tired, cranky, and have a headache so I'm just picking nits :lol:
28.425k---see section 3.
Bronson
thanks for the great info. so tell me if i am wrong ,but the way i understand it from what i have read so far as long as the handgun is in the trunk I am ok for transport in a vehicle no permit needed,but only if it is in the trunk out of reach
thanks for the great info. so tell me if i am wrong ,but the way i understand it from what i have read so far as long as the handgun is in the trunk I am ok for transport in a vehicle no permit needed,but only if it is in the trunk out of reach
To be legal transport mode, it cannot be loaded. Also, the pistol must be yours, you can only be in possession of handguns registered in your name if you do not have a CPL.
What are lawful purposes?
registered in my name if i don't have a permit. isn't it registered at the time of purchase? also I am going to visit my relative who is a Mich resident. So I am good as long as It is in a locked case in the trunk yes? What are lawful purposes?